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mikeb


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jun 2020, 15:26    Post subject:  

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And what about HTTP/3 that is near. Protocol developed by... guess who?

sell sell sell...i assume they get a cut from landfilling.

Hope they invest in oxygen production too.

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mikeb


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2020, 00:20    Post subject:  

Ok technical head prevailing.

Google were struggling to keep up with their educational commitments...eg virtual classroom during lockdown due to the extra bandwidth needed. After all their servers main traffic appears to be serving mindless crap to the masses al la TV. It was a bit embarrassing hence the search for a way to use UDP rather than TCP/IP since its bandwidth overheads are lower...basically larger packets are sent before error checking which means bigger chunks need to be resent when there is corruption on route.
This is similar to why NFS is faster than SAMBA but networks are much more reliable than the days of dial up so like hard drives error checking its less of a need now.
Also https encryption itself increases overhead.

I did muse over whether the huge upload bandwidth the net now requires was in fact distributed serving sharing the load among users ala BBC iplayer. Even for data harvesting a MB a page seems excessive.

So goldfish bowl syndrome where the data grows to fill the bandwidth and storage available regardless of need and rather than address data waste find workarounds...a bit like the oil industry. Very Happy

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul 2020, 04:47    Post subject:  

Hi mike, the biggest laugh is seeing big horrible cross scripting warnings on respected organisations home pages.
I write to them-they stay silent.

Duckduckgo is broken as from a few days ago.
Tried onesearch, that seems to work okayish,.
Startpage, mmm, sort of okay.

Have you a top three of benign search engines you use?
Ones that will work well with links and netsurf as a common denominator.
Ones that will work well with links and netsurf as a common denominator.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul 2020, 05:23    Post subject:  

Duck ducky behaving here but have had their server keel over on occasion....getting popular.
In town there is a big billboard advertising them at the moment.

I did use ask for ages mainly for the less cluttered results.

Also tried kiwi browser on this tablet..... chrome renderer but independant everything else... seemed a good one...main interest was being able to use addons that google forbid on android.
Palemoon does have some neat workarounds under the hood to counter web control I noticed.

I am on the practical fringe of this subject generally trying to achieve a balance and avoid supporting oligarchys .
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul 2020, 05:51    Post subject:  

Quick off the mark there this morning, thanks!
Yes duck, it pings and ssls.
Try Ducky with javascript off. Then you'll see what I mean.
Guess I will have to use bookmarks more often, it will still work if you type stuff in the url bar.
Onesearch okay. but enrique might come along and inform us as to whom (verizon?) is and whether they do respect privacy,
or are just like the other betterware sales people ramming their foot in your door Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jul 2020, 05:58    Post subject:  

Just updating this on the duckduckgo problem. (Like when javascript is temporarily off or disabled).
When you got to:
https://duckduckgo.com/
And then you put the mouse or whatever into the search box. If you hit enter or click on the S to the right of the search box. You get:
https://html.duckduckgo.com/html

Then normal searching is available. Don’t know why this second step is introduced, but at least it works.

The CEO of Ducky was on the internet last week, apologising on a forum for some (unrelated?) other stuff about accidentally releasing some search data, and said they were fixing it pronto.

He got some rough treatment, but you probably wouldn’t get any of those facebook, google etc CEOs actively engaging in a forum, so fair play to the guy.

The pertinent question one of the spanish inquisitioners asked was, “What the hell were you doing with the data in the foist place to accidently lose it down the plughole? (bearing in mind ducky’s no nonsense mission statement).

I can’t get on with Firefox 76 etc, crashes if you try to save a pic and no I haven’t time to send a report to mozilla (which pops up on the screen), they should know this already, but it’s that bulky they would probably have to spend a year finding the problem, by which time 80 would be out with more bugs etc.

My mate still watches the professionals on youtube with FF 25, does his transactions (tweaked obviously). does his facebook and angry tweets, maintains client websites and also picks up some nice recipes for chutneys and the like..
All on a little atom and it never misses a beat.
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